Monday, December 20, 2010

Mohammed vs Jesus

I'm taking part in a little online convo over at Extraordinary Claims. The entry on Allah has quite a few comments. In the latest round, I couldn't help noticing the Quran talking smack about Jesus. In one comment, commenter "atom" includes a litany of quotes from the Quran. Allah drones on about those who reject his revelations, "We will make his punishment long and terrible." [19:79] Blah blah blah.

But this seems a little unfair...
Those who deny Our Revelations are deaf and dumb, living in many layers of darkness. Allah confounds whom He wills, and guides to the Right Way whom He pleases. [6:39] ... Those who deny Our revelations, We draw them step by step closer to destruction in ways that they do not realize,[7:182] and even though I grant them respite; My plan is surely effective.[7:183] ... None can guide those whom Allah confounds and leaves them blundering about in their rebellious transgression.[7:186]
Oh great! So, not only am I going to hell, but no one can stop me, not even myself. That's not fair.

I managed to stay awake long enough to come across the text,
Those who say: “The Compassionate (God) has begotten a son,” certainly preach such a monstrous falsehood,that the very Heavens might crack, the earth might cleave asunder and the mountains might crumble to pieces – at their ascribing a son to the Compassionate (God), It is not befitting to the Compassionate (God) that He should beget a son.[19:88-92]
Soooo... I guess Jesus is out of the question. Couldn't help wondering what the Christians might have to say about that. And it seems that the New Testament is not an "enlightening Book",
Yet there are others among people who wrangle about Allah, though they neither have knowledge nor guidance, nor an enlightening Book, twisting things around in order to lead others astray from the Path of Allah – for such persons there is disgrace in this life, and on the Day of Judgment we shall make them taste the punishment of burning fire,[22:8-9]
Oh good, so it's not just me, but all Christians too.

Hmmm... which religion is right? Which one should I choose?



  1. You're such a literalistic reader ..... Take both books for what they were tools for understanding, not word for word.

    This really isn't doing much to improve Muslim Christian relations, now is it? The last thing either "side" needs is another person to criticize the belief system that many hold true. All you need to do is create a comic strip of Jesus beating the crap our of Mohammed (or vice versa) and before you know it, someone will be burning an effigy of you and claiming jihad against you.

    Extremism aside, but think of it as similar to what we were chatting about last week on our run. So what if gay people want to marry? What business is that of ours? How does that affect us? The same holds true with religious folk, deeply or otherwise. As long as their not hurting anyone, who cares if their using God/Allah as a "crutch" to help them through life (which can be difficult at times when you're going it alone). Just a thought. Sometimes that's all people have. And if you go and try to rip that from underneath them, I think it's actually a little bullyish.

    Run tomorrow to debrief?

  2. And just what interpretation would you suggest?

    In terms of leaving each to their own... the Quran says "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." [Surah 9:121]

    Lots more here...